Saturday, March 13, 2010

Tables Turned on Paul Ekman

Check out the wink at 3:20, and the words "pretty much"

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6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yeah! I saw it! He just lied why he was answering that question. Or i would say he is clearly not sure what he was saying at 3:20 in the video. The lowered brows gives it away!

March 13, 2010 at 4:26 AM  
Ian Trudel said...

The fact is either you're good at catching lies or you're good at lying, never both. Whether it is innate or under training.

The perspective given by one side makes it difficult to fully commit to the other side. When you're good at catching lies, you understand how complex and difficult it is to make a good and successful lie - especially against someone who can catch lies. Likewise, being a good liar requires incredible acting abilities but when you act, your judgement is impaired to some extent since your mind is busy holding a mask. Either requires devoted attention to be good at...

Ian.

March 13, 2010 at 5:18 AM  
Anonymous said...

That's a gesture...of concentration. It's actually an illustrator, which tends to indicate honesty.

Do the world a favor and don't start accusing people of deception just because you see a muscle move unless you've done some actual hard research. Watching a tv show and a few youtubes doesn't cut it.

March 13, 2010 at 9:50 PM  
John said...

I never accused the Paul of deception. In fact he was being honest when he said that he for the most part had been able to be honest most of the time. His wink and word choice, in my opinion, was his way of saying it is extremely difficult to be totally honest all the time. It was an example of how subconsciously his facial expressions added to the message.

I have never considered a 'wink' as a gesture, it is a facial expression. Illustrator gestures are used to enhance the verbal messages. Like showing how large a fish is, or when giving directions you may point your finger in a particular direction to show another the correct way to go.

March 14, 2010 at 7:55 AM  
Anonymous said...

It's not a wink, and it's not subconscious.

A "wink" is a unilateral split-second relaxation, then contraction, of the levator palpebrae superioris. The entire upper eyelid will close.

What you see at 3:20 is a unilateral contraction of the orbicularis oculi (pars palpebralis) and corrugator muscles. Note (among many other clues) the eye doesn't actually close all the way. It's also not fast enough for a blink/wink.

It also not a microexpression. The movements occur three times in sequence, and much slower than the standard microexpression, indicating deliberate expression.

It's used as a gesture of emphasis, and it's no more subconscious than a brow raise emphasis gesture.

See, e.g.:

Ekman, P., & Friesen, W. V. & Hager, J.C. (2003). The Facial Action Coding System. Palo Alto, CA: Consulting Psychologists Press. p17, p28, p40.

Ekman, P. (1979). About brows: Emotional and conversational signals. In M. von Cranach, K. Foppa, W. Lepenies, & D. Ploog (Eds.), Human ethology (pp. 169-248). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.

Ekman, P., & Friesen, W. V. (1969). Nonverbal leakage and clues to deception. Psychiatry, 32, 88-105.

March 14, 2010 at 12:28 PM  
Unknown said...

A person lies a average a three times per 10 minutes (about 04:22). He than says something like it's nonsense and than does a one shoulder shrug. This was funny to see I think, because it isn't a baseline behavior of him.

Also this one, it isn't so clear to catch someone lie and than shows a little smile and later does a shoulder shrug. I think because for him it was easy. Not so strange because he's an expert.

He looks like a great man, very humble I think, I really like his work and his personality (from what I see).

March 15, 2010 at 5:45 AM  

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