Spying for Lying: NBC News LA County Sheriff

Thursday, December 31, 2009

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Anonymous said...: Interesting perspectives of LVA here:

https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1057897314; December 31, 2009 at 7:01 AM
Anonymous said...: Research Casts Doubt on Voice Stress Lie Detection Technology
http://news-info.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/669.html; December 31, 2009 at 7:17 AM
Anonymous said...: Los Angeles Sheriff's Office Trials Layered Voice Analysis (LVA)
https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1229445968; December 31, 2009 at 8:00 AM
Anonymous said...: I think that it is good that technology is being used to help detect deception, and I just wish it were more accurate because it becomes a double edged sword - especially with truthful people whose nonverbals are misinterpreted due to poor training with inaccurate methods, such as LVA or polygraph, etc.

This is one reason why attorney's advise their clients to retain counsel prior to being "interviewed" by law enforcement, because "anything you say (or do) can and will be used against you":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE&feature=related; December 31, 2009 at 8:07 AM
Anonymous said...: Difference between "person of interest" and "suspect:

http://www.nowpublic.com/craig_stebic_person_interest_or_suspect; December 31, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Anonymous said...: Workplace: Interview or Interrogation?
http://www.businessweek.com/careers/content/may2001/ca2001054_613.htm; December 31, 2009 at 9:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Q. What is the Employee Polygraph Protection Act? How does it apply to government agencies like police departments?

A. The Employee Polygraph Protection Act of 1988 (29 U.S.C. Chapter 22) is a law designed to protect private sector employees from polygraphs and other purported lie-detection devices. It was enacted in the wake of numerous allegations of abusive behavior by polygraphers and after a number of studies concluded that polygraph accuracy was unacceptable. A number of prominent organizations such as the American Medical Association and American Civil Liberties Union testified in support of its passage.

Generally, this law prevents private employers from even requesting that an employee or job applicant submit to a polygraph or any other type of "lie-detection" test (CVSA, etc.). There are a number of exemptions, which include:

* Employers under contract with the federal government for defense/energy/law-enforcement purposes;
* Employers whose primary business involves providing armored car personnel, burglar alarm system personnel, or security personnel whose function includes protection of facilities that have a significant impact on the health and/or safety of any state or municipality (power plants, water supply facilities, etc.);
* Employers authorized to manufacture, distribute, or dispense a controlled substance.

In addition, all private sector employers may request that any employee submit to a polygraph interrogation if the employer is investigating a specific loss. However, the employee has the right to refuse the polygraph in this situation and may not be fired/demoted/disciplined/denied promotion solely on the basis of this refusal.

Government employers, such as law enforcement agencies, are completely exempt from this legislation. This exemption applies to all levels of government: federal, state, and local. This means that government entities have carte blanche to use the polygraph however they see fit with virtual impunity.

Q. I would like to see the Employee Polygraph Protection Act expanded to provide protection from unreliable lie-detection for all Americans. How can I help?

A. The best thing to do its to write your representatives and urge that more comprehensive antipolygraph legislation be passed. The AntiPolygraph.org Get Involved page has sample letters and the addresses of several prominent senators who have shown some interest in this issue.

Q. I am a minority job applicant, and I recently "failed" a polygraph when I was truthful. Is it possible that racism, sexism, or other bigotry has contributed to my failure?

A. Certainly. While polygraph "false positives" affect those of all races, creeds, and colors, it is quite probable that this "test" is being used to carry out bigoted hiring practices in broad daylight. Because it can easily be manipulated by one person (the examiner), the polygraph is the perfect "tool" for circumventing an otherwise fair hiring process. A single "failed" polygraph can create an indelible negative mark on an otherwise outstanding applicant. Furthermore, in most circumstances, there is no right of appeal. Even if there is an appeal process, the applicant still faces an uphill battle -- after all, his/her credibility is suspect because he has "failed" a polygraph.

AntiPolygraph.org has been contacted by a number of minority applicants informing us that they were falsely accused by a polygrapher and that there may have been a racist element to their "failure." If you are in this situation, we suggest that you contact the NAACP by written letter and inform them of your situation and this website. Moreover, urge them to aggressively support closing the loopholes in the 1988 Employee Polygraph Protection Act and extending protection from polygraphs to all Americans.

http://antipolygraph.org/faq.shtml#q29; December 31, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Anonymous said...: Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA)

http://www.dol.gov/compliance/laws/comp-eppa.htm

http://employment.findlaw.com/employment/employment-employee-more-topics/employment-employee-privacy-top/employment-employee-privacy-lie-detector.html; December 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Anonymous said...: It is troubling that there are many examples of abusive practices with polygraph/anti-lying devices:

http://antipolygraph.org/statements.shtml

http://antipolygraph.org/litigation.shtml

And yet law enforcement insists on using it despite it's proven unreliability proven in scientific research.; December 31, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Be Like Me

A great man who knows everything about this topic warns everybody to be sure you really want to learn this, because once you learn it you cannot unlearn it, says Dr. Paul Ekman.

I also have a couple of warnings: (1) Don't read people and tell people what you're seeing in them. People hate it- and you become instantly creepy; (2) Be careful, if all of a sudden you are looking at everything more clearly you can become super sensitive. This can be very dangerous to yourself and all of your relationships. Recognize if at least 70% of our communication is not the words that are used- all of a sudden you could be seeing 3 times more information it can be scary- so chill out a little.

Starting to Learn: With a little investment of money and many hours of study you to will see the world differently.

Step 1:

Get a good body language book. I can recommend this book because it covers all the bases.

Step 2:

Practice, Practice, Practice. I find airports and sandwich shops (on weekday lunches) are the best places to read people. There always a electic mix of people- sometimes they are there for business, other times it is catching up with friends. Do it at least once a week, if not more. Go to parties and different events to expose yourself to different reads, notice the differences. Learn.

Step 3:

Get advanced micro expression training at Humintell. Get certified in microexpressions, then do it until you get a perfect score. There is no sense learning to recognize what is going on but getting it wrong. Once your perfect, keep up your skills to maintain your score by going back every so often.

Step 4:

Get yourself a good pair of dark or mirrored sunglasses because when you are outside you do not want to be caught starring at someone, and then stare at everyone. Think Secret Service.

Step 5:

The best book on lying I have come across for the non professional is this one. Memorize it. Read and skim it every so often. If you know and understand the concepts presented in this book, it is like you’ve been working as a police detective for 20+ years.

Step 6:

Get Subtle Expression Recognition Training at Humintell. This training examines how the core emotions can be shown on only part of the face. They occur when an emotion is first beginning. They also occur when someone is trying to suppress any sign of how they are feeling. Recognizing true feelings is important to the craft.

Step 7:

Detecting Deception Through Statement Analysis

People's words betray their true thoughts, and they will provide you with more information than they realize. This book will show you what to look for in verbal and written statements to determine if they are telling the truth. If you are a fan of "Lie to Me" the stuff in this book is their secret weapon that they never explain the science of, but use in every episode.

Step 8:

More books. These I can recommend because they are really interesting. Sure they will cover some of the concepts you already learned from the first body language book, but they have something to add, and it becomes a refresher now that you have some experience under your belt.

Step 9 (Become Advanced):

Branch out. Get more technical books. Read FBI profiler books. Check out some NLP stuff. Watch the news show that feature interrogations like 48 hours and Dateline. Watch some reality shows like the Bachelor. Read scientific articles on the latest research in the area. Play poker. Offer to interview candidates for job openings at work. Watch the news. Pay attention in meetings. Sell something to someone. Watch Lie to Me and some of the non technical crime shows are pretty good. Meet someone at a meeting or social setting. Make sure your family and friends know you care about them by using what you learned here to show them.

Some of the other items in my tool kit are:

I buy my books in pdf format, that way I can search across all the pdfs with Adobe Reader. I also have a pdf print driver so if I see something on the web I print it to a pdf file and it is part of my library. I probably have twenty books and hundreds of articles that I have collected over the years.

I have a Namesysco voice stress analyzer. It is a powerful tool but it is only one tool in the whole toolbox.

I also have several programs that help me analyze written copy.

Then for fun I have this...

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